Showing posts with label currency. Show all posts
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Thursday, April 23, 2015

Here's Why Gold Will Be Priceless in Three to Five Years

Over the next few years as debt, currencies and countries start to fall apart and individuals will be looking to place their money where it will hold its value and buying power during times of extreme uncertainty.

If you eliminate fiat currencies which are created out of this air and are nothing more than a credit we are left with precious metals and stones. As much as we have evolved over time, we could be valuing things like gold, silver, platinum, and precious stones more so than our currency.

Let’s face it, currencies are swinging in value 20-50% regularly and while most people do not realize it their buying power often is not as strong as it was. Would you rather hold a large portion of your capital in say the EURO which is falling like a rock in value costing you thousands of dollars a month, or would gold and silver which rises in value as your currency falls be a smarter decision?

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Wednesday, July 23, 2014

The TRUTH about China’s Massive Gold Hoard

By Jeff Clark, Senior Precious Metals Analyst

I don’t want to say that mainstream analysts are stupid when it comes to China’s gold habits, but I did look up how to say that word in Chinese…..


One report claims, for example, that gold demand in China is down because the yuan has fallen and made the metal more expensive in the country. Sounds reasonable, and it has a grain of truth to it. But as you’ll see below, it completely misses the bigger picture, because it overlooks a major development with how the country now imports precious metals.

I’ve seen so many misleading headlines over the last couple months that I thought it time to correct some of the misconceptions. I’ll let you decide if mainstream North American analysts are stupid or not.

The basis for the misunderstanding starts with the fact that the Chinese think differently about gold. They view gold in the context of its role throughout history and dismiss the Western economist who arrogantly declares it an outdated relic. They buy in preparation for a new monetary order—not as a trade they hope earns them a profit.

Combine gold’s historical role with current events, and we would all do well to view our holdings in a slightly more “Chinese” light, one that will give us a more accurate indication of whether we have enough, of what purpose it will actually serve in our portfolio, and maybe even when we should sell (or not).

The horizon is full of flashing indicators that signal the Chinese view of gold is more prudent for what lies ahead. Gold will be less about “making money” and more about preparing for a new international monetary system that will come with historic consequences to our way of life.

With that context in mind, let’s contrast some recent Western headlines with what’s really happening on the ground in China. Consider the big picture message behind these developments and see how well your portfolio is geared for a “Chinese” future…

Gold Demand in China Is Falling

This headline comes from mainstream claims that China is buying less gold this year than last. The International Business Times cites a 30% drop in demand during the “Golden Week” holiday period in May. Many articles point to lower net imports through Hong Kong in the second quarter of the year. “The buying frenzy, triggered by a price slump last April, has not been repeated this year,” reports Kitco.

However, these articles overlook the fact that the Chinese government now accepts gold imports directly into Beijing.

In other words, some of the gold that normally went through Hong Kong is instead shipped to the capital. Bypassing the normal trade routes means these shipments are essentially done in secret. This makes the Western headline misleading at best, and at worst could lead investors to make incorrect decisions about gold’s future.

China may have made this move specifically so its import figures can’t be tracked. It allows Beijing to continue accumulating physical gold without the rest of us knowing the amounts. This move doesn’t imply demand is falling—just the opposite.

And don’t forget that China is already the largest gold producer in the world. It is now reported to have the second largest in-ground gold resource in the world. China does not export gold in any meaningful amount. So even if it were true that recorded imports are falling, it would not necessarily mean that Chinese demand has fallen, nor that China has stopped accumulating gold.

China Didn’t Announce an Increase in Reserves as Expected

A number of analysts (and gold bugs) expected China to announce an update on their gold reserves in April. That’s because it’s widely believed China reports every five years, and the last report was in April 2009. This is not only inaccurate, it misses a crucial point.

First, Beijing publicly reported their gold reserve amounts in the following years:
  • 500 tonnes at the end of 2001
  • 600 tonnes at the end of 2002
  • 1,054 tonnes in April 2009.
Prior to this, China didn’t report any change for over 20 years; it reported 395 tonnes from 1980 to 2001.
There is no five-year schedule. There is no schedule at all. They’ll report whenever they want, and—this is the crucial point—probably not until it is politically expedient to do so.

Depending on the amount, the news could be a major catalyst for the gold market. Why would the Chinese want to say anything that might drive gold prices upwards, if they are still buying?

Even with All Their Buying, China’s Gold Reserve Ratio Is Still Low

Almost every report you’ll read about gold reserves measures them in relation to their total reserves. The US, for example, has 73% of its reserves in gold, while China officially has just 1.3%. Even the World Gold Council reports it this way.

But this calculation is misleading. The U.S. has minimal foreign currency reserves—and China has over $4 trillion. The denominators are vastly different.

A more practical measure is to compare gold reserves to GDP. This would tell us how much gold would be available to support the economy in the event of a global currency crisis, a major reason for having foreign reserves in the first place and something Chinese leaders are clearly preparing for.

The following table shows the top six holders of gold in GDP terms. (Eurozone countries are combined into one.) Notice what happens to China’s gold to GDP ratio when their holdings move from the last reported 1,054-tonne figure to an estimated 4,500 tonnes (a reasonable figure based on import data).

Country Gold
(Tonnes)
Value US$ B
($1300 gold)
GDP US$ B
(2013)
Gold
Percent
of GDP
Eurozone* 10,786.3 $450.8 12,716.30 3.5%
US 8,133.5 $339.9 16,799.70 2.0%
China** 4,500.0 $188.1 9,181.38 2.0%
Russia 1,068.4 $44.7 2,118.01 2.1%
India 557.7 $23.3 1,870.65 1.2%
Japan 765.2 $32.0 4,901.53 0.7%
China 1,054.1 $44.1 9,181.38 0.5%
*including 503.2 tonnes held by ECB
**Projection
Sources: World Gold Council, IMF, Casey Research proprietary calculations


At 4,500 tonnes, the ratio shows China would be on par with the top gold holders in the world. In fact, they would hold more gold than every country except the U.S. (assuming the U.S. and EU have all the gold they say they have). This is probably a more realistic gauge of how they determine if they’re closing in on their goals.


This line of thinking assumes China’s leaders have a set goal for how much gold they want to accumulate, which may or may not be the case. My estimate of 4,500 tonnes of current gold reserves might be high, but it may also be much less than whatever may ultimately satisfy China’s ambitions. Sooner or later, though, they’ll tell us what they have, but as above, that will be when it works to China’s benefit.

The Gold Price Is Weak Because Chinese GDP Growth Is Slowing

Most mainstream analysts point to the slowing pace of China’s economic growth as one big reason the gold price hasn’t broken out of its trading range. China is the world’s largest gold consumer, so on the surface this would seem to make sense. But is there a direct connection between China’s GDP and the gold price?
Over the last six years, there has been a very slight inverse correlation (-0.07) between Chinese GDP and the gold price, meaning they act differently slightly more often than they act the same. Thus, the Western belief characterized above is inaccurate. The data signal that, if China’s economy were to slow, gold demand won’t necessarily decline.

The fact is that demand is projected to grow for reasons largely unrelated to whether their GDP ticks up or down. The World Gold Council estimates that China’s middle class is expected to grow by 200 million people, to 500 million, within six years. (The entire population of the U.S. is only 316 million.) They thus project that private sector demand for gold will increase 25% by 2017, due to rising incomes, bigger savings accounts, and continued rapid urbanization. (170 cities now have over one million inhabitants.) Throw in China’s deep seated cultural affinity for gold and a supportive government, and the overall trend for gold demand in China is up.

The Gold Price Is Determined at the Comex, Not in China

One lament from gold bugs is that the price of gold—regardless of how much people pay for physical metal around the world—is largely a function of what happens at the Comex in New York.

One reason this is true is that the West trades in gold derivatives, while the Shanghai Gold Exchange (SGE) primarily trades in physical metal. The Comex can thus have an outsized impact on the price, compared to the amount of metal physically changing hands. Further, volume at the SGE is thin, compared to the Comex.
But a shift is underway…..

In May, China approached foreign bullion banks and gold producers to participate in a global gold exchange in Shanghai, because as one analyst put it, “The world’s top producer and importer of the metal seeks greater influence over pricing.”

The invited bullion banks include HSBC, Standard Bank, Standard Chartered, Bank of Nova Scotia, and the Australia and New Zealand Banking Group (ANZ). They’ve also asked producing companies, foreign institutions, and private investors to participate.

The global trading platform was launched in the city’s “pilot free-trade zone,” which could eventually challenge the dominance of New York and London.

This is not a proposal; it is already underway.

Further, the enormous amount of bullion China continues to buy reduces trading volume in North America. The Chinese don’t sell, so that metal won’t come back into the market anytime soon, if ever. This concern has already been publicly voiced by some on Wall Street, which gives you an idea of how real this trend is.
There are other related events, but the point is that going forward, China will have increasing sway over the gold price (as will other countries: the Dubai Gold and Commodities Exchange is to begin a spot gold contract within three months).

And that’s a good thing, in our view.

Don’t Be Ridiculous; the US Dollar Isn’t Going to Collapse

In spite of all the warning signs, the US dollar is still the backbone of global trading. “It’s the go-to currency everywhere in the world,” say government economists. When a gold bug (or anyone else) claims the dollar is doomed, they laugh.

But who will get the last laugh?

You may have read about the historic energy deal recently made between Chinese President Xi Jinping and Russian President Vladimir Putin. Over the next 30 years, about $400 billion of natural gas from Siberia will be exported to China. Roughly 25% of China’s energy needs will be met by 2018 from this one deal. The construction project will be one of the largest in the world. The contract allows for further increases, and it opens Russian access to other Asian countries as well. This is big.

The twist is that transactions will not be in US dollars, but in yuan and rubles. This is a serious blow to the petrodollar.

While this is a major geopolitical shift, it is part of a larger trend already in motion:
  • President Jinping proposed a brand-new security system at the recent Asian Cooperation Conference that is to include all of Asia, along with Russia and Iran, and exclude the US and EU.
  • Gazprom has signed agreements with consumers to switch from dollars to euros for payments. The head of the company said that nine of ten consumers have agreed to switch to euros.
  • Putin told foreign journalists at the St. Petersburg International Economic Forum that “China and Russia will consider further steps to shift to the use of national currencies in bilateral transactions.” In fact,a yuan-ruble swap facility that excludes the greenback has already been set up.
  • Beijing and Moscow have created a joint ratings agency and are now “ready for transactions… in rubles and yuan,” said the Russian Finance Minister Anton Siluanov. Many Russian companies have already switched contracts to yuan, partly to escape Western sanctions.
  • Beijing already has in place numerous agreements with major trading partners, such as Brazil and the Eurozone, that bypass the dollar.
  • Brazil, Russia, India, China, and South Africa (the BRICS countries) announced last week that they are “seeking alternatives to the existing world order.” The five countries unveiled a $100 billion fund to fight financial crises, their version of the IMF. They will also launch a World Bank alternative, a new bank that will make loans for infrastructure projects across the developing world.
You don’t need a crystal ball to see the future for the US dollar; the trend is clearly moving against it. An increasing amount of global trade will be done in other currencies, including the yuan, which will steadily weaken the demand for dollars.

The shift will be chaotic at times. Transitions this big come with complications, and not one of them will be good for the dollar. And there will be consequences for every dollar based investment. U.S. dollar holders can only hope this process will be gradual. If it happens suddenly, all U.S. dollar based assets will suffer catastrophic consequences. In his new book, The Death of Money, Jim Rickards says he believes this is exactly what will happen.

The clearest result for all U.S. citizens will be high inflation, perhaps at runaway levels—and much higher gold prices.

Gold Is More Important than a Profit Statement

Only a deflationary bust could keep the gold price from going higher at some point. That is still entirely possible, yet even in that scenario, gold could “win” as most other assets crash. Otherwise, I’m convinced a mid-four-figure price of gold is in the cards.

But remember: It’s not about the price. It’s about the role gold will serve protecting wealth during a major currency upheaval that will severely impact everyone’s finances, investments, and standard of living.
Most advisors who look out to the horizon and see the same future China sees believe you should hold 20% of your investable assets in physical gold bullion. I agree. Anything less will probably not provide the kind of asset and lifestyle protection you’ll need.

In the meantime, don’t worry about the gold price. China’s got your back.

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Monday, December 2, 2013

Gold Chart of The Week for Monday December 2nd

Each Week our trading partners at INO.com/MarketClub will be providing us a chart of the week as analyzed by a member of their team. We hope that you enjoy and learn from this new feature.

Weekly Gold Report (December 2nd through December 6th)
We begin the final month of 2013 with a week full of important economic data. From every major market in the world, there are reports and interviews scheduled that collectively should provide some nice volatility over the next five trading days.

In the United States, we will hear from multiple FED Members throughout the week, including Bernanke, Fischer, and Evans. There are also scheduled releases of manufacturing, GDP, Consumer Confidence, and most importantly Unemployment figures from the Government and the Private Sector.


Economic Policy will be decided by the Central Banks in Australia, England and Europe. It should be interesting to see what we hear from the ECB this week. Last month Interest Rates were dropped by .25, but the decision did not seem to have the impact one would expect from such a move by the Central Bank.
I believe the most important Currency to follow these days is the Japanese Yen.

After years of being a “flight-to-safety” favorite amongst Currencies, the Yen has spent the better part of the year getting clobbered due to the BOJ’s firm stance on easing the Currency. We are fast approaching this Summers low print, and it should be interesting to see how it performs at this price in the final month of the year.

Gold Futures begin the week at the lower end of last week’s range and show very few signs of bargain hunter buying. I still believe that, in the absence of weakness in the equity markets, Gold stands virtually no chance of a recovery rally. If hedge funds grow tired of buying new high prints in equities this week, we may see a bounce in Gold but I think it will take a string of disappointments in the US and abroad to see such a scenario take place. I doubt this is the week for it.

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Monday, November 28, 2011

James Rickards: Fed Should Adopt 'Flexible' Gold Standard

James Rickards, author of Currency Wars, says the Federal Reserve should adopt a flexible gold standard to regain confidence in America's currency.



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Wednesday, August 31, 2011

Will Rhind: Gold Is the Safest Currency

Will Rhind, head of U.S. operations for ETF Securities, says that despite gold's recent volatility, it is the safest currency around.







Tuesday, March 30, 2010

New Video: Why Gold Will Not Make New Highs or Lows This Year


Gold has had some dramatic moves in the last eighteen months and we expect it will have some equally dramatic moves in the future, but not right now.

While we recognize that gold is one of the few commodity markets that people are really passionate about, the purpose of this article is not to take sides either with the gold bugs or those who reject the argument that gold is forever. Rather, we want to discuss our interpretation of the markets cycle.

After spot gold made an all time high against the dollar on December 2 at $1,226.37, gold has been in retreat mode. For the for the past several months gold has been in a broad trading range, seemingly unable to move one way or another. This process has created frustration from bulls and bears alike.

Here is the dirty little secret about the gold market. It can be a horrible investment and here's why:

Gold first started trading in the 80's and when gold opened up the public clamored to buy into the gold futures market and guess who sold it to them? Thats right it was the pros, the guys who made their living trading. As a result, gold hit an all time high of around $850 an ounce back then and it took almost 25 years for gold to move over that level, at least in dollar terms. We don't know what your timeline is, but 25 to 30 years is an awful long time to get even again.

So what is really happening in this market?

Everyone is aware of the problems in Europe with Greece, Portugal and a host of yet to be named countries. We all know that the huge amount of money being printed, coupled with the bank failures abroad contribute to the dollars declining value. These events, in conjunction with the American governments actions, also contribute to the devaluation of the dollar. The government claims that this is beneficial to exports, but the bottom line is that the purchasing power of the American dollar continues to erode in world markets.

Based on the declining value of world currency against gold you might ask "why isn't gold trading at $2,000 or even $3,000 an ounce"? What is wrong with this market? This is because a great deal of what goes into the gold market is psychological and reacts to cyclic trends driven by both psychological and economic factors.

So what does all this have to do with the price of gold now? It has everything to do with gold and nothing to do with gold.

Here is what we've been able to observe in the last several years in gold and seems to be holding true. It is something that you should pay attention to if you're interested in the next big move in the gold market.

Before gold can move higher it needs to create what we call an "energy field". The most recent energy fields in gold were between May 12, 2006 and September 20, 2007. This 17 month energy field saw gold prices oscillate between a broad trading range bound by $730.08 (upside) and $541.80 (downside). That energy field produced enough power to propel gold to the new high of $1,012.40 on March 17, 2008. This marked the first time gold exceeded, in dollar terms, the highs set in the early 80's mentioned earlier.

The energy fields we have observed for gold are taking somewhere between 17 and 18 months to complete. If the energy field holds, then the December 3rd 2009 high of $1,226.37 should remain in place for quite some time. If the same cycle remains true then the recent lows that we witnessed, at $1,050, should also remain intact as they represent the 15 to 16 month cycle low.

With the lows in place the next question becomes when is the next cyclical high in gold? Based on the existing cycle, we can expect the next major gold high in 2011.

To summarize: I expect gold to be locked in a broad trading range for the next 12 months bounded by the December 09 highs of 1,226.37 and the lows of $1,050.00. If the gold cycle holds true, we expect that gold tops the $1,226.37 marker by April or May of 2011.

On the on the upside we will also be looking for gold to make a natural cyclic high in October or November of 2011. It's impossible to predict the future with any degree of accuracy, however when we look at the cycles in gold this reads as a pretty good bet.

No matter what happens we expect gold will offer some great trading opportunities that investors and traders should be able to take advantage of.

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As we always discuss, in trading one should approach gold or any other market with a game plan and proper money management stops. The key to success in this decade will be an investors willingness to move in and out of asset classes such as gold and be well diversified into more than one asset class. That way you wont be left holding the bag for the next 25 years. Our World Commodity Portfolio is a good example of this approach and one I believe will serve investors well in the coming years.

So just click here to watch today's new video and as always the video is free to watch. Please take a minute to leave a comment and let us know what you think about the direction of this gold market.



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Tuesday, March 23, 2010

GFMS Analytics Says: Gold May Drop to $1,030 as U.S. Dollar Favored


Gold may decline to $1,030 an ounce in the next few weeks as sovereign debt problems in Europe prompt investors to favor the dollar as an asset of “first resort,” GFMS Analytics Ltd. said. The U.S. currency “has another period of strength left in it,” Rhona O’Connell, managing director of the London based research company, wrote in a report posted on its Web Site. Debt encumbered Greece and a faster recovery in the U.S. economy than in Europe “point to renewed dollar strength,” she wrote.

Gold prices have stalled this year after a 24 percent jump in 2009 as Greece’s budget crisis shook confidence in Europe, pushing the dollar higher. The Dollar Index, a gauge of the U.S. currency’s value against six major counterparts, has advanced 3.5 percent this year. Gold for immediate delivery rose 0.3 percent to $1,105.10 an ounce at 12:05 p.m. Singapore time. The metal dipped to $1,092.47 an ounce yesterday, the lowest price since Feb. 25.

Still, investment demand for the precious metal will revive as loss of confidence in the economic recovery is expected to rekindle interest in gold later this year, especially if a double-dip recession develops, said O’Connell, who has more than 20 years’ experience as a metals market analyst. Government spending after the worst global recession since World War II spurred demand for gold last year as a hedge against inflation and a declining dollar.

Silver may also underperform as strong industrial demand may turn out to be stock building, while the platinum market will see another surplus this year, she said. Palladium’s fundamentals are stronger, “with a deficit again developing in the coming months” and a “positive price profile forecast” for late 2010 and into 2011, the report said, without giving a specific price estimate.

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Monday, March 8, 2010

Russia Accumulates Gold, BRIC Nations Sense The Age Of The Dollar Is Toast


As you know, Russia, India, China and some of the BRIC-like countries will continue to push hard for a gold and silver content in the new formulation of the SDR this year. The US and UK are vehemently opposed.

Europe is still wallowing in confusion and is virtually leaderless, as the most recent financial crisis in Greece shows. This may not be all bad, because it highlights the weaknesses in their union, and gives them the incentive to take it to the next step.

One cannot have a common currency with uncommon fiscal policies and laws. While there is some room for discretion, it is sorely tried in changing economic conditions and social attitudes. America went through a bloody Civil War for this reason.

This is why a one world currency, except for international trade only and at the discretion of trading partners, is so dangerous. One cannot maintain their sovereign freedom when someone else controls the supply of their money: either you cheat or you submit. All serious economists understand this; too few of the voting public do.

What Will the World Currency Become? The Stakes Are Enormous

And the Winner Is...the SDR?

This is the fallacy of the US dollar as the reserve currency for the world. It 'worked' as even Mr. Greenspan noted, as long as the US dollar was able to demonstrate the objective stability of an external gold standard relative to other currencies. That lasted for a few years, and the rest is foreign policy and currency wars. The time for its replacement is long past. The BRIC's understand this, and are playing their hands accordingly.

If one submits to a single world or regional currency for domestic use, they may as well take their constitutions and individual rights and throw them away. And globalization has been serving as a proxy for this, paving the way.

Gold and Economic Freedom: Did Greenspan Know What He Was Doing? - ZeroHedge

The moves here are slow and subtle, since great nations are involved. I get the impression, though, that most traders are playing checkers at a chess match. Well, that works for the daytrade. But only time will tell what will happen, and when. But sometimes events can break free and move quickly. Best to gather those nickles off the freeway before the rush hour commences.

Or as the man behind the .50 cal would say, 'Git some. Come git some.'


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Friday, February 26, 2010

Gold Futures Rise as Investors Seek Alternative to Currencies


Gold rose for a second straight day, heading for a monthly gain, on speculation that concern over Greece’s debt will increase demand for the precious metal as an alternative to holding currency.

Greece may have its sovereign debt rating lowered within months if it fails to meet the objectives in its plan to reduce a budget deficit, Moody’s Investors Service said yesterday. The dollar fell as much as 0.6 percent against the euro after yesterday climbing to near a nine month high.

“You’ve got to look to play gold on the long side,” said Matt Zeman, a metals trader at LaSalle Futures Group in Chicago. “Fiat currencies continue to lose credibility. Even if Greece gets rescued, there will be another country in line with their hands out. People are flocking to gold to shield themselves from the volatility in the currency markets.”

Gold futures for April delivery rose $4.20, or 0.4 percent, to $1,112.70 an ounce at 9:35 a.m. on the New York Mercantile Exchange’s Comex unit. The metal is up 2.6 percent this month, heading for the first monthly gain since November.

The euro has fallen against the most currencies this month except the pound as concern that Greece will struggle to contain its deficit reduced demand for the 16 nation monetary unit.

‘Safe Haven’ Search

“The euro-zone scenario is still lingering in the market,” said Bernard Sin, the head of currency and metals trading at gold refiner MKS Finance SA in Geneva. “People don’t trust the dollar, they don’t trust the euro, so the only way to go is to look at other alternatives such as gold. It’s a safe haven.”

Last year, gold rallied 24 percent, touching a record $1,227.50 an ounce on Dec. 3, as the dollar fell 2.5 percent against the euro. Gold priced in euros reached a record on Feb. 19.

Gold prices are poised for strong gains as a “good hedge against volatile times,” Graham Tuckwell, the chairman of ETF Securities Ltd., said today on Bloomberg Television. There’s “a lot of safety in commodities, particularly in gold,” he said, adding that he sees “substantial upside” for bullion.

India raised import duties on gold to 300 rupees ($6.51) per 10 grams, from 200 rupees, Finance Minister Pranab Mukherjee said today in his budget presentation. That may cut domestic demand, according to Rajesh Exports Ltd. Chairman Rajesh Mehta.

Silver futures for May delivery in New York rose 7.8 cents, or 0.5 percent, to $16.21 an ounce. Platinum for April delivery gained $4.40, or 0.3 percent, to $1,535.60 an ounce. Palladium for June delivery advanced $5.15, or 1.2 percent, to $430.65 an ounce.

To contact the reporters on this story: Nicholas Larkin in London at nlarkin1@bloomberg.net; Pham-Duy Nguyen in Seattle at pnguyen@bloomberg.net.


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